with the exception of my .223 bdl varmint. My 1980 .270 Win. Even “shot-out” barrels in an infamous barrel burner like the 220 Swift are usually in excellent condition at the cooler muzzle end. That is one aspect not mentioned in quite a few of the writings that praise this cartridge for many other positive attributes, of which there are many. A 6 X 284 barrel, with titanium nitride bore treatment, was gone in 1500 rds. Field & Stream may receive financial compensation for products purchased through this site. one of them still shoots one hole groups old ruger varmit m77r. (I have had excellent luck with other bbl manufactures as well, but have settled in on Bartlien barrels… If you have, how many shots did it take to lose 1MOA of accuracy. I have heard the .243 is hard on barrels. only barrles I ever shot out were a .300 win mag in 40xb ( I bought it used) put maybe 1500-2000 rounds in it. In my experience if you chase the lands, and when you have to make adjustments of 30 thousands or more at a time, your barrel isn't going to last that long. Has anyone here ever shot out a 270? Copyright © 2020 Field & Stream. By shot out I mean from near MOA/sub MOA to over 1.4 MOA. 270 weatherby magnum barrel life? The difference between a slow and fast barrel will be far greater than 2 inches of barrel. Repeating Arms Company (Winchester Inc). could be a scope loose or just a junk scope, loose action in the stock., the rest your shooting off of etc etc theres a host of things it could be. vs. .300 Win. I looked up barrel life for 7mm rem mags and wsm's in comp and seems to be 700 to 1000 rounds but they have a lot higher rate of fire. shoots a minute and a half, and it is still an eminently usable rifle. The .270 Winchester was introduced in 1925 with Winchester’s Model 54 rifle, a Mauser-derived bolt-action (the Model 70 is an improved version, with a better trigger) which was totally on purpose.Even then, the 6mm and 7mm family enjoyed a certain popularity for having a balance of velocity and “oomph,” making them suitable for hunting deer-sized game at longer range than the .30-30. has about 2k rounds through it, most of them hot hunting loads. AZAV8ER, what you are describing is a barrel just getting broken in! I have also read that relative to others similar to the .270 Win, this cartridge is not too tough on barrel life. you should probably be more specifc, like what type of rifle, how old, what type of ammo. JMHO First comes the loss of gilt edged accuracy, then when the unusable point comes, you suddenly can't keep it on the target at 100 yds. It was a hammer forged barrel with only 5 lands that were canted rather than square with the groove. Winchester Super Short Magnum, or WSSM is a line of rebated rim bottlenecked centerfire short magnum cartridges introduced by the U.S. These benchrest-quality barrels are made to impressive tolerances. Apr 17, 2017 #2 E. eklarsen Member. i.e. (Read how heat eats barrels here.) Certain target games don’t permit this, which is one reason moderate volume cartridges like … To me it sounds like you need to clean the barrel and check your load. on a 270 never heard that before. my guess is you got some copper fowling in that firearm. I have 22 inch 270's and they are just find. was wondering if anyone had any experience with this calibre chambered in a weatherby rifle and whether this cartridge was hard on the barrel. AZAV8ER, what you are describing is a barrel just getting broken in! on a .243 never heard that one either. The numbers below refer to the very best accuracy of which a tube is capable, before it starts to slide even the smallest bit. Is barrel wear and barrel life a serious concern for 99% of readers? Hunting, fishing, camping, hiking, shooting, handloading, AZ history. Great deals on 270 Barrel. I don't keep a round count anymore, so I don't know exactly how many rounds that has been put down it. like I said shot and shoots 1 hole groups since then. Comparing the .270 with the 7mm Remington magnum is like comparing grits and white cornmeal. AZAV8ER, May 25, 2019 in Rifles, Reloading and Gunsmithing. All match and select match barrels are air gauged on sensitive equipment and stress relieved at the factory. I dont run hot loads through any of them just a tad below max. Dan Lilja Offers Some Guidelines. I get questions about this, so here’s a brief guide: It’s impossible to say, flatly, how long a barrel will last. 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If your barrel loses accuracy at the 1500-round mark, then it only worked for three seconds! roughly how many rounds would a barrel last and whether the weatherby magnum cartridge caused significantly more throat errosion than a 270 win or the 270 wsm, also any ways to extend barrel life or minimise erosion. Joined Mar 1, 2017 Messages 69 Think barrel life of a 30-06 vs 25-06, the 25-06 caseneck "concentrates" the burning powder more than the 06 will due to smaller caliber and will create more pressure too. SHOPPING 22 250 Rifle Barrel Life And 270 Rifle Barrel For Sale 22 250 Rifle Barrel Life And 270 Rifle Barrel For Sale Reviews : If you're looking for 22 250 Ri I am thinking this barrel could be done. Mule Deer Cartridge Showdown: .270 Win. Materials and barrel life. If so how many rounds did it last? if not more than likely your cause. Remember that these are very conservative figures. (I have a spare barrel, but don't see any urgent need to install it). Fast & Free shipping on many items! Mag. Shop for Best Price Best 223 Bulk Ammo Barrel Life And Best 270 Ammo For Blood Trails . He is simply asking if any has ever shot out a .270 barrel. Total end of life seems to come in a rush. Sign up for a new account in our community. Barrel life is something that's often more emotional than factual. But at the end of the day, a rifle is made to be enjoyed, so don’t hold back on shooting your rifle over concerns of losing accuracy, but rather enjoy the rifle and monitor barrel life so that you can prepare for a replacement when one is due. Mag. June 11th, 2016 How Long Will Your Barrel Last? 17 AH was completely gone in 3700 rds, with hot loads. Shilen's barrels have probably set more world records than any other barrel made, because so many shooters rely on them. These barrels are showing exceptional clean ability, more velocity, longer barrel life, reduced bolt / breech pressure and extreme accuracy – shooting small groups at short and long ranges. Could be a ton of things. The way the rifle is cleaned plays a big role in barrel life too, correct cleaning will increase barrel life. I would guess that it would take 3K rounds to kill a .270 as a hunting rifle. Grab a bore scope or take it to a gun smith. Most .270 barrels use a 1:10” twist-rate, which generally precludes bullets weighing more than 150-grains. Normally a barrel being shot out you will start to get rounds that leave the group for no reason. Firearms, Long Range Shooting, and Reloading. cartridge (l.), was created by necking down the .30-'06 case to accept a .277" bullet. For example, Dan’s FAQ addresses the question of barrel life. The first factory load featured a 130 grain bullet at a muzzle velocity which closely approached the factory advertised figure of 3160fps from the 54 rifle's 24" barrel. More coming with the next rant. All rights reserved. Both have been popular from their inceptions. Barrel-maker Dan Lilja’s website has an excellent FAQ page that contains a wealth of useful information. vs. 7mm Rem. The last one, installed by Sam May, Apex Rifle Co. Flagstaff, only got to about 750 rds. It's easy! I have a .270 with a 24" stainless barrel with a 1:10 twist rate and I am shooting 110gr bullets through it at 3250fps which is 1 grain below the maximum charge weight. Most of the time when barrels get shot out it is because of the excess heat from shooting strings of shots in a row. OTOH, I have shot out 2 - 25-06 barrels. We put 3 popular cartridges to a head-to-head-to-head test One of the most debated topics in the shooting community today. I am not experiencing a problem just wanting to set parameters. Does the perfect muley cartridge really exist? I do not think he has shot his out, just trying to gauge when he might expect to start seeing signs of a shot out barrel. Also ran a 7.62x39 in 308 bore that would have lasted pretty much forever had I not sold the complete rifle to fund another project. Many products featured on this site were editorially chosen. This will cause the 25-06 to need a new pipe before the 06. They will tell you what it looks like at that time. However, no animal will know the difference. In this article I will discuss what barrel life means to the everyday shooter, and how you will know when your barrel is worn out. .243 barrel life is determined by the barrel. The barrel is only an ordinary one to, it's not heavy or anything, so how many rounds could I expect to shoot through it before it wears out and I lose accuracy and need to have it re barreled? all my rifles are p-dog guns and we used to shoot the crap out of them in the 80's and 90's. Both are excellent cartridges. By I'll also explain what causes barrel wear, and how to prolong the life of your barrel. Use good barrels, and the life will be greater. Couple of barrel life observations. I've shot the 30BR since 2005 and it is one amazing case in terms of barrel life. one of the most accurate guns I have. By some including the US Army, it's not the rounds down the barrel, it's how much powder that been burned in it. On the Lilja FAQ Page as you’ll find informed answers to many commonly-asked questions. The core rule to extend barrel life is to not shoot it fast and hot. Perhaps the design played a role as well. The .270 Win., shown to the right of a .30-'06 Sprg. (I have a spare barrel, but don't see any urgent need to install it). It still shoots good - with some loads the groups open a little, but it is a fairly consistent 1 1/2" rifle. If barrel life is of a concern to you, use the advice given above on how to increase your barrel’s lifespan. Let it cool between shots. It still shoots good - with some loads the groups open a little, but it is a fairly consistent 1 1/2" rifle. It depends on what round count do you think your barrel accuracy has degraded too much. It is a further development of the Winchester Short Magnum concept utilizing … just doubt the barrel. Trick out or upgrade your firearm with the largest gun parts selection at eBay.com. Barrel Life, Part I. Reproduction in whole or in part without permission is prohibited. the other was my 22-250 easily 5k through each barrel was on its 3rd barrel when I traded it. If you are worried about barrel life, as mentioned earlier … How many shots does it take to shoot out a barrel? This is the reason that the .270 has not been a true long-range choice, in the modern sense of the term; the twist rate won’t stabilize the heavy-for-caliber, high Ballistic Coefficient bullets that long-range shooters want. The answer is no. Regardless, the .308 is a very gentle round when it comes to barrel life and with proper care it will last a long … Erosion from bullet friction alone is minimal as suggested by the longer barrel life of “mild” cartridges like 30-30 Winchester, 22 Hornet, and especially 22 rimfire. the others just sit in the safe. How many rounds can you shoot at a time before you have to worry about throat erosion in your rifle bore? If you are a paper junkie, as in, just need every gun to look best on ballistic charts, than the 24 inch tube will give a little more velocity theoretically. I've got one that has enough rounds down the barrel that I'm surprised that it still shoots. I have 3 rifles, all set up for the following load, all run 8 twist Bartlien barrels. A good motto is "Too hot to hold, too hot to shoot." A Bonnier Corporation Company. For some shot out is going from .3 MOA to over .7 MOA. has about 2k rounds through it, most of them hot hunting loads. You can have a minute-of-angle .270 that erodes until it only (!) usually the shooter, the load I am assuming you reload. My 1980 .270 Win. I have a a few .243s with well over 2-3k fired through them. What are guys out there finding for barrel life in there 7mm rem mags. We at Outdoor Life take special pride in the ongoing success of the .270 because it was on these pages, through the romantic phrases and sound advice of Jack O'Connor, that the .270 became a hunting icon. ... flatly, how long a barrel will last. The barrel that's on it now, a Douglas stainless, is showing some erosion in the throat, and is not as accurate as it once was, but still ok for most hunting. You need to be a member in order to leave a comment. I've been using a formula (rule of thumb) that matches pretty well what top ranked competitors get with 22, 24, 26, 28 and 30 caliber barrels. I would check everything else out first. Rifle barrels are usually made from steel alloys called ordnance steel, nickel steel, ... For example, some .270 Win. By David E. Petzal and Phil Bourjaily. The .270 Winchester was released in 1925 chambered in the Model 54 bolt action rifle. barrels are rifled with a 1 in 12 inches twist, some .30-06 barrels are also rifled 1 turn in 12 inches, and some .300 Magnum barrels are rifled 1 turn in 14 inches. If you are just doing normal hunting/sighting in it would take a TON of rounds to kill the barrel. Of course, if you are shooting a “long-lived” .308 Win that goes 5000 rounds before losing accuracy, then you get a whopping TEN seconds of barrel life. A spare barrel, but it is a further development of the heat... Installed by Sam May, Apex rifle Co. 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